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LOU DOBBS TONIGHT
Debate Over
Immigration Bill Continues; Iraqi Troops Still
Not Ready to Step Up; Visa Programs Being Used
by Companies to Bring in Foreign Labor; Why No
Recall for Dangerous Chinese Tires? Aired June 27, 2007 -
18:00 ET
BILL TUCKER, CNN
CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The L visa is much
more dangerous to the American worker than the
better known H-1B visa. L visas have no wage
requirements. An American can be replaced by an
L visa worker, and there is no cap on how many
can be issued.
SSo who uses the most L visas, a visa designed
for managers, executives and workers with
specialized knowledge? Nearly half of the top 20
users are companies whose business is
outsourcing work. Tata Consultancy, Cognizant
Tech Solutions, Sarvam Computer Services, WIPRO,
HCL, PATNI Computer Systems, Infosys, Caritor
(ph), Syntel.
All of those companies are also top users of
H-1B visas. And when those are compared to the
Department of Labor's own projections, it
reveals a frightening future for America's
technology producers. br>
PAUL ALMEIDA, AFL-CIO: This sector of the
economy, the high-tech area, is only going to
grow by approximately 120,000 jobs a year.
Unlimited L-1s, it's a definite threat to the
U.S. work force.
TUCKER: In January of last year, the Office of
Inspector General for Homeland Security found
several reasons to be concerned about how the
visas are being used.
The report noted that the term "specialized
knowledge" is so broadly defined, it could be
applied to anyone. And that companies can claim
to be bringing in workers as managers and
executives, but there's no follow-up once they
arrive. That angers some Senate leaders.
SEN. CHUCK GRASSLEY (R), IOWA: Whatever it takes
to just minimally meet the requirements of the
law, do it. Forget about the spirit of the law.
To heck with the American workers. Just get your
workers wherever you can around the world for
the lowest price you can and think last about
helping America.
It's those corporations that I would say to
them, either get your heart into America or get
your rear end out. TUCKER: There is little doubt
about whether the L visa workers are coming
from.
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TUCKER: In 2002, only 10 percent of the
specialized knowledge workers came from India.
By 2005, almost half of the visas that were
issued for specialized knowledge came from
workers who came from India.
Now, Lou, critics of the L visa program are just
warning that we're seeing the beginning of the
exploitation of this program and that the use is
only going to increase.
DOBBS: Well, it is natural. Certainly, no one
can blame the Indian workers, because they are
simply being exploited by the Indian companies
who have been permitted here, through the
policies of corporate America, in order to drive
down wages and to hire cheaper than American
labor.
TUCKER: Exactly.
DOBBS: The idea that the number is -- give us
the number again in both the L visa and the H-1B
visa, the percentage that are going to Indian
companies.
TUCKER: Roughly -- what is it -- 5 out of the
top 6, 14 out of top 20. Five of the top 6 for
H-1B visas. Fourteen out of the top 20 go to
Indian companies for the L-1 visa.
Last year, Lou, people think we really give out
65,000 H-1B visas. It's not true. Last year they
did 118,000 of the H-1B visas alone, which Lou,
almost exceeds the projected job growths, again,
of the tech world.
DOBBS: And you know, it's too much to ask for,
and I know you -- at least most of you, I
believe, at home would agree with me -- it's too
much to ask for that the United States Senate be
watching this broadcast tonight as we report the
facts.
And it's too much to ask that the White House
staff be watching this broadcast and remind the
president when he says that we can secure the
border if we just have a guest worker program.
What we have just reported to you is, in point
of fact. This is not emotional. It's not
ideological. It's not partisan. In point of
fact, all this president and all this Congress
had to do, at any time, if indeed this president
truly believes what he is articulating in
tortured logic, that a guest worker program is
the way in which to secure the border, the
border could be secured eight times over.
The president and this Congress could raise the
levels of those H-1B, H-1a, the H visa program,
with a very simple initiative in either house of
our great Congress. Amazing.
AAll right. Thank you, Bill Tucker. Very
illuminating, as usual. Now our poll. Do you
believe the Senate leadership and the president
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